0:04 The 2022 exam changes
1:56 Advance information
3:55 English literature and poetry
13:24 Teacher assessment
17:17 Grade boundaries
21:03 Exam stress
24:49 Memory and reasoning
40:03 Targeted revision

The 2022 exam changes

The Education Lounge podcast welcome to episode 10 of The Education Lounge today we are going to be looking at the changes that have recently been announced with regards to GCSEs and a Levels so I downloaded um a little sheet from the government website that talks about the changes and the one word that’s all the way Through this is fairness that they the they’re saying they want to be fair to the children that are sitting the exam this year and so they are giving them

Crutches effectively to get through this year because of all the disruption in the children’s education and they are expecting governments are Expecting that exams will go back to normal from 2023. and I don’t know how much you guys have read up on this or heard about it or looked at it the the changes were only Announced yesterday so I don’t think that everybody has fully taken it all on board but we’ve been looking at changes and I think the

They would they’ve been talking about it for some time um so what so the changes seem to be that they’re letting them know or letting the students know and the teachers

Advance information

And tutors know about the specific thing topics that are being tested upon in the exam so for instance maths you receive I’ve downloaded one for foundation maths And higher math um and they’ve taken out some of the topics they seem to have done the same for english and science because I’ve been looking I mean I knew for engl like I’ve known that there’s changes to to The english and I knew that there was that the maths was going to we’re going to receive the list at this time but with english I’ve known for some time for instance that they’re not then

They’re not going to test the anthology poetry um which is kind of fair enough I suppose they’ve said I’ve just written it all down I’ve only looked at the aqa um Spec and what they’ve said is they’ve reduced the time from four hours to three hours 25 and that’s because some of the elements are being taken out there is a poetry anthology Does that depend on the school though because it depends on the school so so paper one uh poetry anthology um one p poetry anthology one 19th century novel 1m modern prose which is what it was

Anyways but what they’ve done is they said you only sit two you have a choice two out of the three so I know last year a lot of our students said um the schools had dropped poetry poetry yeah yeah I mean that’s the I think

English literature and poetry

That’s a logical choice if you’re a school then you’d I think poetries and poetry and poetry anthology is the most to remember yes because you’ve got 15 poems yes and so that cuts down work yeah And then that was paper one and then paper two you have a section a has shakespeare section b has unseen poetry yes As well as a comparison of unseen poetry so they have sneaked it in but yeah that’s but that’s the unseen component so it doesn’t really affect them in terms of what they need to remember so as far as that but you still we still need to teach how to analyze poetry

And there’s no advanced list of you know um like like for example in biology I seem to remember they’re not testing about eyes okay Not really biologists but you know there’s no advanced list that they’re giving out yeah I guess it it doesn’t make sense it’s so limited anyway though because I you could say oh we’re testing on this theme on this novel break it kind of it will Just lead to people writing having well they could just manufac well students can just prepare for that exam based on that topic and then they don’t really need to think too much about the theme so you can see why regurgitate it and then

It doesn’t work and then english language no change to the written exam but there is change to the verbal side of it apparently speaking yeah oh yeah but I think most of this That that tends to be quite a small component yes so so it says here on the aqa website that for 2022 they’re reducing the required subject content everyone’s going to be assessed on Shakespeare on a shakespeare play and schools and colleges can then choose two of the three yeah that’s from people poetry yeah modern text 19th century novel yeah I think shakespeare’s like if you’re if you’re doing english

Literature then you can’t not you do you can’t take shakespeare out already it’s just unavoidable really they’re also reducing the total number of marks available from 160 down to 130. yeah but that’s reflected also in the fact that So what they’re doing is they’re keeping it in proportion aren’t they yeah I don’t think it makes I don’t think it makes any it doesn’t make well it does make a difference but it doesn’t make as much of a difference as um it you know it won’t it won’t really Reflect that much in grades being different because unless you really really love poetry and then your school is cut poetry anthology and you’re like oh and then you’re in and then you’re like that’s your strong suit they are in trouble yeah but

I don’t think you it will matter that much no well then it’s just reducing it so that they have less to cover yeah in in in class time but they still need to have all disruptions they still need the core skills so Of actually writing yeah sorry they’ve got nothing they’ve got rid of no none of the core skills like you say no um so that’s quite it wouldn’t wouldn’t make sense to do that anyway no um yeah it’s a shame that they miss out on Poetry anthology but in a lot of cases because I think that will be what most schools cut um in their teaching and that’s that’s been our experience I think here yeah poetry is quite difficult thing to teach

I mean I love teaching it but I do think that there are quite a few tutors certainly who find poetry quite difficult I think it depends on it just depends on the poem some some students really gravitate towards poetry And then some I mean most of them find shakespeare difficult I’d say that that tends to be a difficult component and then this is different it’s almost a different language well yeah I’ve noticed that like some students are more comfortable with Like a 19th century novel than now with um [Music] yeah so they’re more comfortable with novels and long attacks than they are with poetry and then some of them are really really um suited to poetry yeah um and they

Like just the fact that it’s so much less yeah yeah they don’t need to handle a whole book um yeah so that’s english and then maths well I think it’s a kind of kind of a shame for For for maths um especially for the higher students because if some of them want to do a level then shame to cut down for those particular students who do go on to do but all that will mean is when They come to a level there’s that little bit of a little bit I’m sort of they’ve got so much yeah but yes exactly I know but it just means they’ve got that much more to learn yeah which is which is hard at a level

Because then you’ve got to cram in um I know they did they do some pre-level stuff and some revision that kind of thing but it’s kind of a shame the reason why we’re talking so much about maths and english is because they’re they’re generally the most important subjects so You know they’re your core subjects so sciences are important too it’s just yeah maths and english underpins everything um and and if you look at like job applications and applications to college and stuff like that then That’s what they’re going to look for is is those minimum minimum grades in maths and english and english language in particular so we talked a little bit about literature but languages tends to be more important and that’s not being changed it’s interesting that they haven’t changed that

Because yeah um they’ve said because it’s entirely skill-based stuff it’s not it’s it’s not really it’s not based on it is based on knowledge but it’s not based on Like knowledge of a particular text no it is pure skill because it’s all essay writing it’s the hardest probably the hardest GCSE um of the I don’t think so you don’t think so no I suppose it Depends on your skill set for me it would be maths for sure further forget it yeah no I find english harder I think english is very challenging and it’s reflected in the kinds of results that

That that they they get like aqa for instance because I think aqa english language is particularly difficult that’s the one that the majority of the schools do yes and um I think probably probably the only thing that may be Harder is igcse igc is more um it’s a bit bit strange when she says yeah it’s very um because like the schools can decide more about the route that the students take but yeah um English language is hard because it’s all unseen so I found that people who really gravitate towards literature find language so when when they’re when they’re really hard working and

They like like learning a text inside out and they’re quite reliant on that then they struggle when it’s kind of um [Music] it’s about improvising yeah yeah and I think yeah you’ve got to have the core skills but you also got to know yourself I think in terms of how you Write yeah etc and that is there’s a lot of foundational practice stuff that needs to happen there so be interesting to see what the grades turn out like for english language this Year well this is going to be the next thing um compared to last year because apparently last year there were record numbers of like highlighter because it was all done on teacher it’s hard for a teacher to fail a

Student yeah they’re interested in the thing yeah well no but that that’s that’s so unfair because every single teacher obviously wants to pass a student but they’re not going to Pass us a student for the sake of passing them because there’ll be checks in place well that’s why they they had them rank the students in in the ability yes but but you know like anything like this but even beyond that

Teacher assessment

Every single secondary school will have checks and balances in place so that it’s not just oh the teacher has said so therefore this is the grade they’re going to get yeah so I think they’re they’re more likely to be are you more likely to get mistakes and Lack of objectivity with anything that’s assessed purely in that way so a stars and a grades has risen this is from bbc uh risen by almost 75 Since 2019 since the convention exams were taken has gone up by 75 well we were talking about it earlier um I was listening to the radio on one of my drives and uh they were talking about

An independent school in north london a very prestigious one girls school that I think it was their a levels they were talking about they said that the grades the aa grades jumped from 30 something percent to 90 Something percent okay and then there was this whole debate of should there be private schools and based on that well that’s why that’s what I mean like obviously the checks and balances aren’t good enough in most schools to be able to yeah but that’s one school But I think like the fact that you’ve got a 70 25 yeah that that shows that it doesn’t work and I mean you know you know it will be limited in terms of how I mean I think a teacher assessment component could be something

Valuable because I think students need to learn that they can’t just spend the whole two years doing nothing and then ace the exam and their teachers feedback is not relevant because Well it could get quite political here something comes to mind with regard to um you know school reports are eaten but never mind but yeah I think well that’s the thing with it with this year it’s sort of um A hybrid thing so before you adjust exams last couple of years you’ve had no exams and now they’re doing a mixture of both yeah but it’s only for this year they’re saying 2023 everything will go back to normal well

Yeah we’ll see uh yeah and the grades they say well they’ve asked examiners to be more lenient haven’t they yeah what does that mean because there’s so many guidelines I don’t think they’ve published them yet I haven’t seen them but there’ll be guidelines I know that they’ll just be lower they’ll be lowering the boundaries I think it’s really difficult to be like say more lenient in the maths exam how can you be yeah Well I was just going to say unless they mark like the independent schools mark for 11 plus exams that you don’t take marks away but you if the working out is correct for it but I mean they do that anyway yeah they yeah like like maths maths

Exams tend to be quite or like those type of specifications not so much english english is a bit it’s a bit more confusing but something like and I think you can be more lenient in english sometimes um But something like maths they’re very specific in terms of the marks that are being allocated and how they’re allocated so they break down pretty much almost most of most things so I don’t know how they can be more

Grade boundaries

Lenient but well the only way there’ll be two things weren’t there one is that the great boundaries drop yeah I think that’s likely or or and or um the number of topics they’re tested On like we’ve already discussed reduces so it sounds like they’re going to do both well then we well let’s go on to the advanced material because that’s part of it as well they’re going to be providing certain yeah like a list Of what’s going to come up and more and more form in life in the exam so which is just I guess very well giving you a formula but if a child has never used it what good is this I don’t think it it matters that much right um

I mean if maybe it’s I feel like it’s sort of unfair on people who’ve done their jesus a long time ago because then they’re like oh but we didn’t get these advantages but also you you say that but like if if when When we start employing people again when we employ a a tutor for example we we we don’t just go by grades we you know they’ll do a trial class we’ll make sure that their ethos fits in With us etc etc most companies will do this they might do trial classes but they’ll make sure that you know there’s a probation period etc um maybe companies will start bringing in tests because I think

As it is um is it the cbi that’s been complaining forever that children are all you know young adults are coming out illiterate I mean you’re finding and enumerate you’re finding on most if you apply for Something then you generally have to do some type of some sort of test assessment like whether it be your basic numeracy or like so that’s always like a practical math and that kind of thing So well you have to do it just not just jobs when I did my teacher training I had to do a maths and english exam before they and we had to do a presentation yeah before they took you on the course I

Think teaching is actually one of those things where they they do they will try and it doesn’t always work but they’ll try and select people who actually know um a little know the subject but I mean if I think about All you know in my previous life all my sort of city I think I jobs had one exam the rest was all interview based now it’s changed a lot so most everyone we speak to you After exam like most of the time you yeah now they like they do excel tests they do yeah um maths tests they do um they even sometimes do like non-verbal reasoning tests yeah stuff

If you go for like an ombudsman does the financial ombudsman does them and um kent university does them but yeah now it’s the only the only thing is that all the Feedback I get a lot from students is a lot of them who have a level now they haven’t had any exams practice really because they haven’t had they haven’t they didn’t have their GCSEs so now they’re sitting there a-levels

Exam stress

And they haven’t had um really much or any experience doing qualifications or like GCSEs that type of exam the high pressure exam so most of them are quite nervous about That I suppose it will disadvantage those children that don’t perform well under exams more because they haven’t had the practice yeah yeah no yeah that’s that’s what I mean like everybody will be disadvantaged but Yeah the ones the ones who struggle with exams more they need more more practice than anyone else yeah um [Music] the the schools are trying to what I’ve heard with a lot of students is that they’re taking quite a lot of assessments so

They are doing quite a lot of mock exams maybe more than usual so just in case yeah just to just to get a bit more exam practice which is good I suppose but um yeah it doesn’t mean that they’re kind Of in exam mode all the time and I do think some rest is needed as well so they need like an exam and then they need maybe they need a month off for that because it’s so so much to have it in one go um And then you’re in exam mode all the way till like july yes so and I think a lot of some some people don’t work that way like they need well I know I get burnt out during exam periods like because if I have like if

I’ve got like a day where I’ve got like four exams or three exams like the by the fourth exam I’m like frazzled um so that and I think that happens in in in monthly periods too so if you’ve got loads of exams like Um one month and then next month loads of exams it just takes away like the urgency sometimes and it’s just true but true well it’d be interesting to see What the results bring and how much how much grade inflation will actually be a permanent thing I don’t think I think it will

The kids are more behind than usual I’d say like so I think it’s justifiable like when when you get into the idea of it’s being fair I do think it’s justifiable because I I do think That they have been set back slightly um [Music] in some cases a lot well I think it goes across the board doesn’t it well I know it goes across the board and I know the little ones will cut will have time to catch up yeah but it’s impact that Impact is all yeah no yeah it goes permeates right down to see it once but like for like for instance I had one student who he was doing higher maths and then now he’s doing foundation in

Year 11. because I think like last year he said he said I’ve got to be honest I don’t really do anything locked down I was just thinking actually that the attitude has changed you know with a lot of the students it’s Like well this there’s such chaos and there’s such confusion and well this means nothing anyway that’s that’s the impression I get of you know particularly is going that way with with GCSEs

Memory and reasoning

Um that’s another thing I wanted to talk about was within because firstly with them providing extra material and giving like cutting out bits of exam so there’s less to remember I think it does tie into like the world that we’re in now because how much stuff do you remember compared to how much stuff you look up look everything up so it would have made yeah the GCSEs obviously would have made More sense even 10 years ago when we did them or whatever yeah because we didn’t have as much information no but we’re with our fingers we’re essentially living like cyborgs we have an extension of our arm and we just look up whatever we want

Yeah so cutting down the memory that required for these exams no I don’t know what do you think I mean it’s a valid point and and there there has been talk about changing the the maths curriculum particularly Um so that you you don’t need they were looking at changing it so that you don’t need to do things like uh you know basic basic skills like addition mental mental Maths you don’t need to do but I I still think that that’s important that’s the one thing I would keep yeah but there was there were rumors about it changing um you know when they change the curriculum that this is one of the

Things that they would look at getting rid of because they’re saying well everybody uses calculators yeah so you know the thing is it’s already there so but then I’ll give you an example of a skill that is very useful But I’ve noticed people are quite poor at it or students are estimating yes so like that’s because they don’t like to get things wrong yeah they don’t like the people they’re working out they rub all of that out so Many extra marks have gone but that’s the the but I think I’ve seen I’ve seen the kids like type in two plus two I know I was just going to say but you know you know what two plus two it’s like yeah I just wanted to make sure it’s like well he hasn’t changed in the last I know right never two plus two

Has always been fun he takes that confidence away from that estimating what you’re talking about so like even mine to be honest I remember I remember doing like even in a level maps so it’s first you’re available estimating it’s still estimated stuff Because like for instance if you have a root say you’ve got a cubic or something like a um if you you still want to s I still estimated roots and that kind of thing just on the top of my head so at least I know like If I’m using a calculator or something like that that my answer makes sense yes and then and then sometimes I just I I look at a student’s work and I think well that’s just impossible like isn’t that how did like it’s not even a like the

Answer doesn’t even make sense like because in it in no realm of possibility could happen could that be right but that it’s sort of counter-intuitive if they do decide to go down that road because it that that’s part of your reasoning Skills yeah it’s like a non-calculator paper is really I think it’s really valuable to be very good at non-calculator paper so you and in igcc they’ve got they don’t have account they don’t have a non-account paper at all yeah they have they have two Calculated papers I mean it still requires a lot of thought and that kind of thing but I do think a non-calculated paper is a good thing and is because the types of questions you get are different and the reasoning required is sometimes a bit different

Um calculated skills are very important but they’ve got you know what to type in yeah like but but yeah like how do you yeah yeah like I think and then also you notice with because math builds on itself if they can’t do a lot of Basic things like those mental math skills and stuff like that then it does affect them in their more advanced it does and no reasoning and that kind of thing later down the line but yeah I I just don’t think there’s enough emphasis I think it’s too dangerous an experiment So to play they like to experiment on and so part of this is is it’s I wouldn’t call it an experiment although I can see why you’d say that it’s it’s more about

Well we need to produce workers that have specific skills yeah and button pushes that’s what it comes down to what what is it what are the skills that are required for them to be able to do a if they exist anymore a Nine-to-five job that is going to be the foundation of our gdp well it goes one or two ways I think looking way into the future it goes into either you’re the person Using the systems to do the well without any just like on automation or you’re the person creating the system yeah and for that you have to you have to know math you just said that you just do there’s a massive dichotomy that either you which would be very very good

It’s the 80 20 rule so 20 would go that way 80 would go that way and then well they don’t need that reasoning skill they’re just going to be button pushers so why bother well then that’s why but I think that’s why um I don’t know though because um to create systems and stuff like that I think the main obviously like there’s very very complex systems that require a lot of mathematics and that kind of thing but I think it just requires out of the box thinking A lot of the time um [Music] and you to be able to identify people who can actually create those systems so here’s a question of all the people that you know have taught in your personal life etc what percentage would you say can do out

Of the box thinking right that’s remember is who I know so probably know a lot of odd people so probably maybe 10 What about you depends on the good well I think there’s a lot more 10 percent that can think outside the box most people I know but it’s No just generally in total it’s very to be the average is a weird thing so for people personal life whatever most most of our friends yeah most I’m pretty good at that sort of thing most of the students are not yeah and I think that is part of what’s

Changed in the last 10 years I think more I think sometimes though joe we’re overly reliant on technology so we’re overly reliant on looking up information looking at how to Do stuff and that actually takes away some it was like I remember it was just easier to rather than look up well I’ll give you an example suppose you you want to master school in maths or something like that But nowadays you can go on to YouTube and then watch a video and learn how to do it but in the old days yeah no no even I’m saying that I didn’t I didn’t that wasn’t the first thing that came into my head um when I was doing like GCSEs or

Whatever all available so I just read a book and I just go and then I also did a lot of sort of thinking about an example and then going okay what’s happening here so more thinking about about your problem solving yeah so like Improvement rather than just passively so how much of that do you think is because of the school you two went to if you think of your friends that didn’t go to number school I don’t think I don’t think it’s to do Normal school they’re the same as us are they yeah well they all tell you something that that is the technology we had a math module and then I just honestly the teachers was like you’ve just got to learn this

I just can’t read the book and so I just I had to like independently sort of thing on my feet it’s quite common um in a lot of the independence but then but then I don’t think state schools would do I don’t think a state school Student teacher would do that sometimes they wouldn’t be allowed to do that um we had a uh I can’t think of just sharon if you remember sharon really good teacher In her school they she changed schools fairly quickly after she started with us but in her school they were not allowed to use textbooks the teacher had to come up with all of the questions state school I think it was

Imagine imagine having to do that on a daily basis you’d never get that in an independent school but then the was it can you prepare so you’d prefer prepare before class of course you don’t just write them up No no no you can prepare before class but I remember her telling me they weren’t allowed to use textbooks [Music] For instance sometimes I think okay well it might be a good idea for the student to read the instructions first and just see like how well they can work out what to do and then some of them can do and but some of them just can’t do it and they’re they’re designed to be easy to

Follow so that that sometimes worries me a bit because I’m like because they’re lead they’re completely led by the nose in school so they’re not used to doing it yeah it’s like they can’t do it it’s that they just it doesn’t enter their Heads yeah it’s like if you haven’t a lot of a lot of the time we prepare preparing children for independent school exams they need to think independently they need to be able to read of course they do and the types of questions sometimes involve you looking at Something quite well reading something quite complicated where they sketch out like this is this and you’re gonna have to learn this part and these are the things that you need to know and this is some knowledge and then apply it here um so it can be quite useful to well it’s

Extremely useful to be able to read and understand what you read and then apply it extremely useful to be able to read [Laughter] well like you read but like some people read but they don’t understand what they’re reading so well this is the common thing isn’t it That children stop reading when they leave primary school and so their reading age doesn’t really develop as they develop so so you know the vocabulary they’re using the sentence structure they’re using you know GCSE Students high level right you just think yeah you know I’ve got a year five who can write better than this yeah it’s just my year fives are normal year five though no idea um so coming

Kind of towards the last part of the the episode I want to run through I’ve got five things here from the government website um we’ll do one at a time and then you just give me a quick reaction of what you think about it so Changes to coursework um non-exam assessment and field work requirements are adjusted with flexibility in some subjects non-exam assessment work requirements have been adjusted geography projects etc so if They’ve got to do a field trip they’ve not been able to do that that’s fair enough flexibility and something yeah okay um support materials students will get formula and equation sheets and some exams and won’t have to memorize as much well we kind of spoke about I think I think that’s not not too much and to be

Honest the people who do remember the formulas and stuff like that they will they will still have a slight advantage because they’ll they’ll have internalized a bit more and they’ll they’ll be quicker to apply it so yeah I would I would agree if you’ve if you you’re more likely to understand the Application of it if you’ve sort of internalized that yeah and not not just committed it to memory but actually in terms of it is is useful because like if you have playing in an exam situation you might panic and then you might like even if you’ve used it a lot not Understood and understood completely you might still forget something um all right um run through the next couple um optional content so there’ll be less content or fewer topics for students to learn in some GCSEs

I think it’s fine but it it it’s a shame but I understand why they’ve been the only issue with that is like you said if it’s the foundation of your a level Well yeah you know you’ve missed my foundation’s not as solid when I yeah I think like it for those who are taking it to a higher level so then it’s more of I think that’s a little unfortunate but then for for the Majority of students especially for foundation students I think it’s a it’s a it’s a blessing yeah so this is where the fairness issue comes in yeah it’s fair to the foundation not

Suffer a little more but um they also may get better grades so like advanced information so examples will give information on the focus of exams for most subjects to help students revise Advanced information but if they’ve reduced the content already are you saying that that advanced information is where the content is well what they did is they so most of them most of schools have sort of assumed apart from say like

Targeted revision

English um because that takes quite a lot of time to go through text and all that for like maps they’ve kind of taught them normally more or less yes um but then now because they know the exact topics I think they’re gonna concentrate on those double down on Those topics which isn’t too when I look at the foundation this for instance I I think a lot a lot of those are important things like you know like things like ratio before they’re things that make sense yeah foundation exactly if anything the Foundation exam is usually very kind of kind of difficult um I I would struggle if I had to take out something out of the foundational maths exam I would struggle to know what to take out I don’t think I’d I don’t

Because I’ve got a foundation class they but I think I think they’re focusing on pretty much the correct topics it’s just uh um so but but they haven’t taken out that many topics really yeah so it’s and I guess the question the question is if The majority of schools have taught everything anyway what’s yeah fine you double down etc and you get a higher grade but really are you doing the children a disservice if or something I’ve got to be honest it’s kind of lip Service it’s just it because knowing the topics doesn’t make you good at maths like knowing the topics that come up doesn’t make you good enough is the ability to apply at the top even in foundation like a lot of the questions involve quite a

Lot of thinking through the question and understanding the meaning that’s generally true in mathematics saying something like history or geography knowing knowing that yeah but it’s also about taking that like you could you could test a very narrow area or something but You still work out who the better historians are right like yeah so because I think it’s easier in essay subjects anyway yeah okay um just very quickly generous grading so exams will be graded more generously this year providing a Safety net for students safety net is a word or a pair of words that have been coming up that’s the phrase that’s constantly yeah it slips I think it’s lip service it’s just like they need something to go okay it’s not gonna be so bad this year um or whatever don’t don’t worry about

It even though we’ve got exams this year yeah it’s going to be fine yeah so okay um here so sorry I was just going to run through yeah I’ll just quickly read this out our aim is to return to a pre-pandemic grade Profile but we do not think it would be fair on 2022 students uh to do so all in one go given the disruption they’ve experienced we will aim therefore to return broadly in two Steps so they’re taking the average mark the average of 2019 and 2021 results for each subject and it looks like they’re basically great boundaries on that

Okay so three more questions just yes or no okay do you think it’s fair yeah yes yeah me too um [Music] Do we need this many GCSEs with like we spoke about the memory and and smartphones doing most of the stuff now like do we yes you think they should continue I think yes yeah if anything I don’t think that would be enough I agree um And then the tute that uh teacher assessments moving forward after this year do you think they should stick around would you think it should just be purely exam based yes I think they should what perspective

40 teacher assessment 60 percent exactly or 30 700 yeah that’s right all the spinal agreed on all three yeah I do I do think yeah I think teacher assessments can actually be valuable um because you see how the child is working Forever yeah I think that’s an important important gauge like it might not be everything but it is I think it is important for students to form good relationships with their tutors or teachers um so they well that’s how society is isn’t it That’s it when they go into a job yeah you know that’s exactly what they’re going to have today they’ve got to do their homework they’ve got it it encourages them more so I think you’ll improve their overall understanding of the subjects so it’s

I’m in favor of it for that reason very very good one-word answer well I did say yes and then you wanted more all right well um we’ll leave it there some of the um sources and information that we’ve used Today we’ll leave in the description um that’s the end of episode 10. thanks for watching again see you next time [Music] You